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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3><strong>Stiff-arm salute: a public interest?</strong></h3>
<p><a href="https://richardlangworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Screen-shot-2015-07-18-at-11.49.13-AM.png"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="size-medium wp-image-3541 alignright" src="https://richardlangworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Screen-shot-2015-07-18-at-11.49.13-AM-233x300.png" alt="Screen shot 2015-07-18 at 11.49.13 AM" width="233" height="300" srcset="http://localhost:8080/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Screen-shot-2015-07-18-at-11.49.13-AM-233x300.png 233w, http://localhost:8080/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Screen-shot-2015-07-18-at-11.49.13-AM.png 794w" sizes="(max-width: 233px) 100vw, 233px"></a>(Updated.) Claiming it was “historically relevant,” <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jul/18/queens-nazi-salute-footage-historical-significance-sun?CMP=ema_565">the <em>Sun</em></a> published a six-year-old Princess Elizabeth, coached by her mother the future <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Elizabeth_The_Queen_Mother">Queen Elizabeth</a> and her uncle the Prince of Wales (later Edward VIII, still later the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Windsor">Duke of Windsor</a>) raising her arm in the stiff salute now identified with the Nazi Party. It was “in the public interest,” wailed the <em>Sun</em>.</p>
<p>It was in the interest of selling newspapers. Buckingham Palace responded:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;">Most people will see these pictures in their proper context and time. This is a family playing and momentarily referencing a gesture many would have seen from contemporary news reels. No one at that time had any sense how the salute would evolve. To imply anything else is misleading and dishonest. The Queen is around six years of age at the time and entirely innocent of attaching any meaning to these gestures.</p>
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<p><a href="https://richardlangworth.com/?attachment_id=3542" rel="attachment wp-att-3542"><img decoding="async" class="alignleft wp-image-3542" src="https://richardlangworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Students_pledging_allegiance_to_the_American_flag_with_the_Bellamy_salute.jpg" alt="salute" width="297" height="232"></a>Quite so, and the stiff-armed salute lasted even longer in America, where schoolchildren used it in the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance#Salute">Pledge of Allegiance</a> from 1892 until 1942, when Congress amended the Flag Code. This was the so-called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute">Bellamy</a>&nbsp;Salute, conceived by the Christian Socialist <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bellamy">Francis Bellamy</a>. Is this really “historically relevant”?</p>
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<div class="gmail_default">I have a 1930s board game called “Diplomacy,” where players pose as great powers and build empires. Players can choose the swastika flag as their home base. It was endorsed by the American newsman <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._V._Kaltenborn">H.V. Kaltenborn</a>. (He was famous for declaring <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_E._Dewey">Dewey’s</a> victory in the 1948 election as soon as the “farm vote” came in.) Meaningless trivia.</div>
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<h3>Purloined symbols</h3>
<div class="gmail_default">The&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika">Swastika</a>&nbsp;was long regarded as a sacred and auspicious Hindu and Buddhist symbol,&nbsp;until it was adopted&nbsp;by Hitler. The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America#Battle_flag">Confederate Battle Flag</a>&nbsp;represented&nbsp;Southern valor for many years before it was purloined by the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan">Ku Klux Klan</a> and other assorted racists. Times and symbols change, and are done away with.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">A friend and historian writes:</div>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;">It’s not news that the then-Prince of Wales was empty-headed enough to think Hitler &amp; Co. were fascinating rather than&nbsp; frightening. He was not the only one to think that way in the 1930s. His foolishness continued well into the war. The most ludicrous example I know of is his message in 1940 to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt">President Roosevelt</a>, asking if the FDR might offer to mediate an end to the war. The Duke would publicly support the offer, and said the English would rise up in revolt, forcing a peace.</p>
<div>The Duke had sent his offer via the journalist <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulton_Oursler">Fulton Oursler</a>.&nbsp; President Roosevelt apparently already knew of the proposal (which suggests that British intelligence had been doing its job). He contemptuously commented: “When little Windsor says he doesn’t think there should be a revolution in Germany, I tell you, Fulton, I would rather have April’s [Oursler’s teenage daughter] opinion on that than his.”&nbsp;<em><br>
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<div class="gmail_default">The Duke of Windsor has much to answer for at the bar of history. &nbsp;As Churchill said in the Fifties, reflecting on his defense of Windsor during the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_VIII_abdication_crisis">Abdication crisis</a>: “I’m glad I was wrong. We could not have had a better King [George VI]. And now we have this splendid Queen.”</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"><a href="https://richardlangworth.com/valedictory-queen-elizabethii">Her Majesty Queen Elizabath II</a> spent a lifetime of devoted service in peace and war. She and her mother, whose biographer says never exhibited one iota of Nazi sympathies—deserved better at the hands of the 24/7 media and their digital organ grinders.</div>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>“A fully equipped Duke costs as much to keep as two Dreadnoughts; and Dukes are just as great a terror and they last longer.”</p>
<p>The wisecrack, <a href="https://richardlangworth.com/quotes-churchill-never-said-1">wrongly attributed</a> to Churchill, was actually uttered by his Liberal ally, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lloyd_George">David Lloyd George</a>. (Allegedly LG said it in 1909, during their battle to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_Act_1911">reform the House of Lords</a>,) It didn’t make Churchill more welcome at <a href="https://richardlangworth.com/lady-randolph-winston-churchill-blenheim">Blenheim Palace</a>, where his cousin the Duke of Marlborough forbade the name of LG in conversation.</p>
<p>The Duke of Windsor (formerly <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_VIII">King Edward VIII</a>) and the 2nd Duke of Westminster are occasionally attacked for their “near-treasonous activity in support of the Third Reich.”&#8230;</p>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“A fully equipped Duke costs as much to keep as two Dreadnoughts; and Dukes are just as great a terror and they last longer.”</p>
<p>The wisecrack, <a href="https://richardlangworth.com/quotes-churchill-never-said-1">wrongly attributed</a> to Churchill, was actually uttered by his Liberal ally, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lloyd_George">David Lloyd George</a>. (Allegedly LG said it in 1909, during their battle to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_Act_1911">reform the House of Lords</a>,) It didn’t make Churchill more welcome at <a href="https://richardlangworth.com/lady-randolph-winston-churchill-blenheim">Blenheim Palace</a>, where his cousin the Duke of Marlborough forbade the name of LG in conversation.</p>
<figure id="attachment_13039" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-13039" style="width: 300px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://richardlangworth.com/dukes/1936aug1sassoon" rel="attachment wp-att-13039"><img decoding="async" class="wp-image-13039 size-medium" src="https://richardlangworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/1936Aug1Sassoon-300x137.jpg" alt="Duke" width="300" height="137" srcset="http://localhost:8080/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/1936Aug1Sassoon-300x137.jpg 300w, http://localhost:8080/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/1936Aug1Sassoon-591x270.jpg 591w, http://localhost:8080/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/1936Aug1Sassoon.jpg 690w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px"></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-13039" class="wp-caption-text">Polo enthusiasts: Philip Sassoon, Edward as Prince of Wales, and WSC, 1936. (Wikimedia Commons)</figcaption></figure>
<p>The Duke of Windsor (formerly <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_VIII">King Edward VIII</a>) and the 2nd Duke of Westminster are occasionally attacked for their “near-treasonous activity in support of the Third Reich.” Some add that Winston Churchill did not turn against those “top toffs,” both of whom were for a time his friends.</p>
<p>“Near-treasonous” is going some in describing their activities. They may have been toffs, but they counted for little in the scheme of things, and, Churchill did try to silence them.</p>
<h3>“Little Windsor”</h3>
<p>The Duke of Windsor (as he became after abdicating in 1936) certainly had much to be modest about. He paid a social call on the Führer in Berlin and gave what looked like a Nazi salute. In 1940 Churchill got him out of Europe by appointing him Governor of the Bahamas. There he did not rehash his prewar pro-Nazi statements. Still, descendants of prominent Bahamians still remember the <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0030575516/?tag=richmlang-20">kerfuffles in Nassau</a> during his tenure. Back home, writes Warren Kimball in <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003ZSHUIO/?tag=richmlang-20">Forged in War</a>,</em> 54, he caused Churchill</p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;">“some embarrassment.”&nbsp; He apparently thought the Germans would win…. Churchill claimed that the Duke’s “loyalties are unimpeachable,” while the documents available suggest that he was obsessed with matters of personal privilege and, like all the Windsors, with the safety of the dynasty.&nbsp; Nevertheless, one plausible tale has the Duke sending a message in 1940 via <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulton_Oursler">Fulton Oursler</a>, an American journalist who had access to Roosevelt, asking if the President “would consider intervening as a mediator when, as and if the proper time arrives?”….&nbsp; FDR, who apparently already knew of the proposal, contemptuously commented: “When little Windsor says he doesn’t think there should be a revolution in Germany, I tell you, Fulton, I would rather have April’s [Oursler’s teenage daughter] opinion on that than his.”</p>
<figure id="attachment_2092" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2092" style="width: 159px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="http://richardlangworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/SSwestminster.jpeg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-2092 size-full" title="SSwestminster" src="https://richardlangworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/SSwestminster.jpeg" alt="Dukes" width="159" height="227"></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2092" class="wp-caption-text">“Bendor,” Second Duke of Westminster (1879-1953)</figcaption></figure>
<h3>“The will of the nation…”</h3>
<p>The other Duke, “Bendor” Westminster (nicknamed for the “Bend’Or” in his coat of arms) was a greater embarrassment. He joined the anti-semitic <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Club">Right Club</a> and the Parliamentary Peace Aims Group in 1939, claiming to be in touch with “Nazi moderates.” The British government, wrote historian Julian Jackson, “did not take any of this too seriously. None of the pro-peace peers were first-rank, or even third-rank political figures.” (<a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0192805509/?tag=richmlang-20"><em>The Fall of France</em></a>, 2004, 204.)</p>
<p>Bendor and Churchill were, however, longtime friends, and once the war started, Churchill chided His Grace. From Martin Gilbert, ed., <em>The Churchill Documents,</em> vol. 14 (Hillsdale College Press, 2011), 91-92:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;">…there are some very serious and bad things in [your Peace Aims Group statements]…. When a country is fighting a war of this kind, very hard experiences lie before those who preach defeatism and set themselves against the main will of the nation.</p>
<p>Bendor sent a dissembling reply and Churchill fired back with a more pointed message. From Churchill Archives Centre, Churchill Papers, CHAR 19/2A/19-20:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;">…in time of peace, people in a free country have a right to form their views about foreign policy; but when the country is fighting for its life against a deadly enemy, there are grave dangers in taking a hostile line to the decided plan….[Especially your]&nbsp;suggesting that all we were fighting for was to make money for the Jews and international finance, or words to that effect.</p>
<p>After that, the Duke subsided, and the Peace Aims Group disappeared after the bombs started falling on London.</p>
<p>Winston Churchill had a lot of loyalty toward his friends. But with the two Dukes, he certainly was aware of the problems and acted to squelch them.</p>
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